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		<title>By: Michael White</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotonut.com/2008/09/22/dslrs-with-video-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-1727</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great site and blog! I don&#039;t know how you find the time to  do it all!

Last Wednesday I used my two 5D MkII&#039;s in a 3 camera music video shoot.  The third camera was a Sony PMW-EX1.  Audio was recorded on two additional devices.  One audio recording device was an Edirol R4 Pro.  The other audio recording setup was a Tascam USB Interface to a MacBook Pro.

The Sony Camera, Edirol, and Tascam/MacBook Pro devices all synced sound perfectly over the full duration of the shoot (just over 20 minutes). To clarify - once the different sources are sync&#039;d quickly and easily to the slate clap on the waveform at the beginning of the shoot they all stayed perfectly in sync for the rest of the video.  

Both Canon cameras audio and video sync&#039;d perfectly to each other but drifted significantly from the other 3 devices even over a 3 minute segment.  The is a very serious problem for me and one that introduces significant post-production trouble expense.

This issue was so unexpected that I performed 3 subsequent tests to confirm that the 5D MkII&#039;s run too fast.  The results from the test show both of my 5D Mark II run about 14 frames too fast in 10 minutes.  Audio that is 1 full frame out of sync is noticeable on sharp sounds causing an echo.  Audio that is 2 or 3 frames out of sync looks odd in terms of lip sync.

That the two Canon cameras audio sync&#039;d OK to each other tells me that the cameras can be calibrated to a standard.  Evidently they are just calibrated to an incorrect standard.

Anybody else experience this?  Does anybody really know if this is likely a chip issue or a firmware issue?  Does anyone know an easy reliable way to get the clips to conform to the standard without time-consuming constant tweaking?

Thanks for your help!
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site and blog! I don&#8217;t know how you find the time to  do it all!</p>
<p>Last Wednesday I used my two 5D MkII&#8217;s in a 3 camera music video shoot.  The third camera was a Sony PMW-EX1.  Audio was recorded on two additional devices.  One audio recording device was an Edirol R4 Pro.  The other audio recording setup was a Tascam USB Interface to a MacBook Pro.</p>
<p>The Sony Camera, Edirol, and Tascam/MacBook Pro devices all synced sound perfectly over the full duration of the shoot (just over 20 minutes). To clarify &#8211; once the different sources are sync&#8217;d quickly and easily to the slate clap on the waveform at the beginning of the shoot they all stayed perfectly in sync for the rest of the video.  </p>
<p>Both Canon cameras audio and video sync&#8217;d perfectly to each other but drifted significantly from the other 3 devices even over a 3 minute segment.  The is a very serious problem for me and one that introduces significant post-production trouble expense.</p>
<p>This issue was so unexpected that I performed 3 subsequent tests to confirm that the 5D MkII&#8217;s run too fast.  The results from the test show both of my 5D Mark II run about 14 frames too fast in 10 minutes.  Audio that is 1 full frame out of sync is noticeable on sharp sounds causing an echo.  Audio that is 2 or 3 frames out of sync looks odd in terms of lip sync.</p>
<p>That the two Canon cameras audio sync&#8217;d OK to each other tells me that the cameras can be calibrated to a standard.  Evidently they are just calibrated to an incorrect standard.</p>
<p>Anybody else experience this?  Does anybody really know if this is likely a chip issue or a firmware issue?  Does anyone know an easy reliable way to get the clips to conform to the standard without time-consuming constant tweaking?</p>
<p>Thanks for your help!<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: juanita cummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>juanita cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Damien 

Thanks for your answer i am thinking of buying the camera but i want to see the reviews on the video, its the video section on the camera that makes me say the camera is worth the price it is, if it didn&#039;t have the video function i wouldn&#039;t be willing to pay that much as my 5d cost £1200.

thanks
juanita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Damien </p>
<p>Thanks for your answer i am thinking of buying the camera but i want to see the reviews on the video, its the video section on the camera that makes me say the camera is worth the price it is, if it didn&#8217;t have the video function i wouldn&#8217;t be willing to pay that much as my 5d cost £1200.</p>
<p>thanks<br />
juanita</p>
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		<title>By: Cris Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cris Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really excited about having video on my SLR. At the moment I carry a Panasonic SDHD video camera to capture any video I want at weddings etc...

I have found that using a good mic is essential and well worth the investment, personally I use a Robe VideoMic see http://uk.rodemic.com/microphone.php?product=VideoMic

It was quite well priced and fits into the hotshoe, just don&#039;t forget to turn it on :)

I have found people really like a bit of video mixed into a slideshow, and I really love the confetti idea, I may have to try that one!

At the moment I am right at the bottom of the ladder when it comes to photography, so maybe the video doesn&#039;t look too out of place, I think it would become difficult to maintain higher standards of video production in line with getting to be better photographer. I will be very interested to see what you do with the technology here.

Cheers

Cris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really excited about having video on my SLR. At the moment I carry a Panasonic SDHD video camera to capture any video I want at weddings etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I have found that using a good mic is essential and well worth the investment, personally I use a Robe VideoMic see <a href="http://uk.rodemic.com/microphone.php?product=VideoMic" rel="nofollow">http://uk.rodemic.com/microphone.php?product=VideoMic</a></p>
<p>It was quite well priced and fits into the hotshoe, just don&#8217;t forget to turn it on <img src='http://www.prophotonut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I have found people really like a bit of video mixed into a slideshow, and I really love the confetti idea, I may have to try that one!</p>
<p>At the moment I am right at the bottom of the ladder when it comes to photography, so maybe the video doesn&#8217;t look too out of place, I think it would become difficult to maintain higher standards of video production in line with getting to be better photographer. I will be very interested to see what you do with the technology here.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Cris.</p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the disc you are selling. You are selling the content. If you want to posh it up a bit then put the finished production on an iPod Touch and present your clients with it :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the disc you are selling. You are selling the content. If you want to posh it up a bit then put the finished production on an iPod Touch and present your clients with it <img src='http://www.prophotonut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that last point shows a lot of insight. Using all three mediums to our advantage would create a wonderful product, the immediate problem is how to present it? Maybe I&#039;m just tied into &#039;album&#039; ways of thinking, but how do we add value to &#039;a disc&#039;. When that&#039;s what the likely presentation medium will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that last point shows a lot of insight. Using all three mediums to our advantage would create a wonderful product, the immediate problem is how to present it? Maybe I&#8217;m just tied into &#8216;album&#8217; ways of thinking, but how do we add value to &#8216;a disc&#8217;. When that&#8217;s what the likely presentation medium will be.</p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotonut.com/2008/09/22/dslrs-with-video-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been emailing a friend of mine that is already integrating stills and video in wedding productions he says &quot;I believe that its really not about the technology but the fact that we tell stories - how you tell them can be via video, stills and audio in different combinations. There are moments that are perfect for just audio, other where video is king, then of course the perfect still shot capturing the perfect moment.... storytellers will need to use all of these -not just one or the other.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been emailing a friend of mine that is already integrating stills and video in wedding productions he says &#8220;I believe that its really not about the technology but the fact that we tell stories &#8211; how you tell them can be via video, stills and audio in different combinations. There are moments that are perfect for just audio, other where video is king, then of course the perfect still shot capturing the perfect moment&#8230;. storytellers will need to use all of these -not just one or the other.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
		<link>http://www.prophotonut.com/2008/09/22/dslrs-with-video-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was no restriction on me at all. However I was there to present the new features of the camera to the press and retailers and I was working for Canon. I had literally taken just 5 pictures with the camera the night before and I was not demonstrating the camera any further than I my familiarity would allow. If I had had a couple of days with the camera I could have shot some really cool video. There was no user manual and the video facilities are so well embedded in camera that you would not notice them at all without them being pointed out. I thought that I&#039;d sit down with my camera when it arrives and learn the features and limits thoroughly. I spent 12 years at the BBC as a cameraman and a lighting director so I should be able to find my way around the features when I get a chance.

The output of the camera was on the HD plasma screen live whilst I shot the &#039;bride&#039; pictures. The HDMI output will be useful for training purposes too. I hope this helps.

Damien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was no restriction on me at all. However I was there to present the new features of the camera to the press and retailers and I was working for Canon. I had literally taken just 5 pictures with the camera the night before and I was not demonstrating the camera any further than I my familiarity would allow. If I had had a couple of days with the camera I could have shot some really cool video. There was no user manual and the video facilities are so well embedded in camera that you would not notice them at all without them being pointed out. I thought that I&#8217;d sit down with my camera when it arrives and learn the features and limits thoroughly. I spent 12 years at the BBC as a cameraman and a lighting director so I should be able to find my way around the features when I get a chance.</p>
<p>The output of the camera was on the HD plasma screen live whilst I shot the &#8216;bride&#8217; pictures. The HDMI output will be useful for training purposes too. I hope this helps.</p>
<p>Damien.</p>
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		<title>By: juanita cummings</title>
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		<dc:creator>juanita cummings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
I was wondering why Canon would not let you test the video format at the launch of the new canon 5 D mark II

thanks
juanita</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
I was wondering why Canon would not let you test the video format at the launch of the new canon 5 D mark II</p>
<p>thanks<br />
juanita</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Pillinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Pillinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been thinking the same thing. We were lucky to have a pro video our wedding because we were good friends. Had we not known him we would only have our photos, which are absolutely fantastic, but there is something special about having the video. Especially for recording the vows and speeches.

I&#039;m definitely thinking of getting the new 5D for my wedding shots - it will certainly be an extra service that I can provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been thinking the same thing. We were lucky to have a pro video our wedding because we were good friends. Had we not known him we would only have our photos, which are absolutely fantastic, but there is something special about having the video. Especially for recording the vows and speeches.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m definitely thinking of getting the new 5D for my wedding shots &#8211; it will certainly be an extra service that I can provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian McGraw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian McGraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Q&amp;A for the Laforet video is here - the possibilities are just endless. You could leave a 5D in the wedding car and leave it running (on a timer??) as the couple leave the reception/church - a true candid moment! 

http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Q&amp;A for the Laforet video is here &#8211; the possibilities are just endless. You could leave a 5D in the wedding car and leave it running (on a timer??) as the couple leave the reception/church &#8211; a true candid moment! </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Johannes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johannes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean Damien.. this camera is gonna open up a hole new world to play in..  thanks for all your input on this..  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean Damien.. this camera is gonna open up a hole new world to play in..  thanks for all your input on this..  <img src='http://www.prophotonut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With HD video you get 1920 pixels by 1080 pixels and at 175 ppi that equates to 10&quot; x 6&quot; print.

I thought that with the confetti you&#039;d shoot video then at the peak of the action take a couple of stills and then let the video kick in again a second or so later. When edited together I&#039;d expect to have a bit of slow motion video running at 50% speed cut to a still shot via &#039;peak white flash&#039; transition, hold on the still for 2 seconds before returning to video footage at 50% speed. I think it would be a really good look.

For the vows I&#039;d have the 5D mk2 running all the time on video whilst I shot stills from the second body :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With HD video you get 1920 pixels by 1080 pixels and at 175 ppi that equates to 10&#8243; x 6&#8243; print.</p>
<p>I thought that with the confetti you&#8217;d shoot video then at the peak of the action take a couple of stills and then let the video kick in again a second or so later. When edited together I&#8217;d expect to have a bit of slow motion video running at 50% speed cut to a still shot via &#8216;peak white flash&#8217; transition, hold on the still for 2 seconds before returning to video footage at 50% speed. I think it would be a really good look.</p>
<p>For the vows I&#8217;d have the 5D mk2 running all the time on video whilst I shot stills from the second body <img src='http://www.prophotonut.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep I understood that too and really that would kill the movie element since you&#039;d surely go for the still at the peak of the moment. I&#039;m curious whether you could get a frame grab from the movie footage good enough for say a 3x2 print.

I can see clients being reluctant to have no stills of say the vows or ring exchange but if you can say &quot;look I can make you a page of stills from the movie footage&quot; then you have quite a compelling proposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep I understood that too and really that would kill the movie element since you&#8217;d surely go for the still at the peak of the moment. I&#8217;m curious whether you could get a frame grab from the movie footage good enough for say a 3&#215;2 print.</p>
<p>I can see clients being reluctant to have no stills of say the vows or ring exchange but if you can say &#8220;look I can make you a page of stills from the movie footage&#8221; then you have quite a compelling proposition.</p>
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		<title>By: damien</title>
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		<dc:creator>damien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that you get a 1 second break in the video recording when you take a full resolution (21mp) still. I&#039;ve not had the chance to try it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that you get a 1 second break in the video recording when you take a full resolution (21mp) still. I&#8217;ve not had the chance to try it though.</p>
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		<title>By: martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any idea whether you would be able to get a still from the video footage good enough to print and put into the album?  I could see that working, especially if you printed say a sequence of small frame grabs and filled up a 16x12 double album spread with them.  Could be v.cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any idea whether you would be able to get a still from the video footage good enough to print and put into the album?  I could see that working, especially if you printed say a sequence of small frame grabs and filled up a 16&#215;12 double album spread with them.  Could be v.cool.</p>
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